How and When Nations Die

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When Nations Die

As we wrote back in 2007, nations and empires actually do have “life cycles.” This has been studied by many historians throughout the years and they all have come to about the same conclusion: a lifetime of about two centuries. And they all seem to go through the same life cycle: “from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependence back again into bondage (Alexander Tyler, 1750).”

Where are we in this cycle? We, too, have gone from bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage which established our precious liberty, which, in turn, has given us unprecedented abundance that has made us the envy of the world. That abundance, however, has led to complacency and apathy. (If you ask the average person, “What is the biggest problem in America?” Is it ignorance or is it apathy? They will probably respond, “I don’t know; and I don’t care!”)

This apathy will ultimately lead to dependency and then return us to the very bondage that this nation was founded to deliver us from. Robert Bork was right when he said that, “The only hope for America is a grass roots revival.” Is America ripe for judgment? Billy Graham quipped many years ago, “If God doesn’t judge America He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah!”

Thomas Jefferson summed it up well: “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; and that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

How A Country Dies

death of a nation

    From EconomicNoise:

    A country dies slowly.

    Those living during the decline of Rome were likely unaware that anything was happening. The decline took over a couple of hundred years. Anyone living during the decline only saw a small part of what was happening and likely never noticed it as anything other than ordinary.

    Countries don’t have genetically determined life spans. Nor do they die quickly, unless the cataclysm of some great war does them in. Even in such extreme cases, there are usually warning signs, which are more obvious in hindsight than at the time.

    Few citizens of a dying nation recognize the signs. Most are too busy trying to live their lives, sometimes not an easy task.  If death occupies their mind, it is with respect to themselves, a relative or a friend. Most cannot conceive of the death of a nation.

    A Country Dies Slowly First

    For those interested, signs or symptoms precede death for a country. There are patterns:

    1. The Economy

    Economically, people become poorer. It becomes harder to feed a family. Growth stalls and stagnation occurs.  Job opportunities decline. Disincentives to work rise as government tries to ease the burden on the unemployed and lower-skilled. These efforts require more revenues, necessitating higher taxes or debt financing. Disincentives to create jobs are exaggerated as a result of attempting to ease the hardships. Higher taxes and other burdens on the productive make work less attractive.

    Capital flees first. It goes to areas where adequate returns are still possible. Jobs are created, just not in the host country. Finally a “brain drain” occurs – talented people leave the country for places that offer greater opportunity. In the case of the US, it is necessary to renounce one’s citizenship in order to escape US taxes. Citizenship renouncements are currently at the highest levels in history. The flight of capital, both real and human, further  reduces standards of living. Signs of stagnation become apparent. Countries often respond with capital and emigration controls.

    Signs of deterioration begin to appear. They do so slowly and in many ways. Funds to maintain infra-structure are diverted for other purposes. So too are funds necessary to provide longer-term benefits like pensions. Eventually these diversions begin to show up in slow and subtle ways — roads  have more potholes, government funding for research and development slows, government services decline, pension benefits come under attack.

    Effects show in the private sector. “For rent” signs are seen more frequently. Classified advertisements for employment  decrease. “Going out of Business” sales appear often and are no longer marketing gimmicks.

    As a country declines,  people dig into their savings or borrow more in an effort to maintain their standards of living. Many believe the condition temporary, rather than a long-term, deteriorating condition. Bankruptcies increase. Strip malls and other retailers close. Manufacturers decrease their labor force. Municipal areas like Detroit can become close to uninhabitable as industry leaves and government services are cut back.

    These conditions characterize the beginning of the decline. As the decline progresses, things become much worse.

    2. The State

    The State is threatened by the decline. Its first reaction is to blame others for causing it. Eventually, it moves into pretend mode, trying to convince people that things are on the mend. All States seem to want to deny, divert and become more powerful.

    Three behavioral traits characterize the States reaction to a declining situation:

    1. things are not as bad as they seem.

    2. the State is not responsible for the situation.

    3. the State must do more (grow bigger) in order to solve the problems.

        State-controlled data are fudged to convey a false image of well-being. Government spending soars as a means to  juice reported economic activity. Much of the increased spending is both unproductive and counterproductive. Disincentives and distortions are introduced as a result, further weakening the economy’s ability to recover. Proper price discovery is disrupted and capital allocation decisions are based on improper signals.

        The State encourages unwise behavior in an effort to mask or correct the problem. People are encouraged  to live beyond their means by making debt readily available and nearly free.  Bubbles inevitably occur as the result of these false signals and then burst. New bubbles are necessary to replace the economic activity lost from the bursting of the old bubbles.

        The State has one objective  – to remain in power. When that is threatened, rules, laws and regulations  are rewritten as necessary. New ones multiply.  The attempt to fool the masses eventually becomes an attempt to protect the State. Rules and legislation become more tyrannical, often under the pretense of protecting people against some false threat. In reality, the laws are passed to protect the State against a public growing increasingly restive as a result of the decline in its quality of life.

        “Bread and circuses” increase as diversionary tactics. Dependency increases, reflecting an attempt to placate, even “buy-off”  the dissatisfied masses. A “wag the dog” war or crisis may be used as a means to rally the public against some common, but phony, enemy.

        3. Society

        Society coarsens as this process progresses. People increasingly are less able to provide for their families. Some  turn to unethical behavior, even criminal acts, out of desperation.  Common decency declines.

        Regulations reduce the sphere of voluntary interactions between people. Government dictates more and more of what must be done as well as when and how it must be done. Political correctness is increasingly used as a club to direct behavior and language. How you must live increasingly becomes determined by others rather than yourself.

        Free markets are slowly replaced by command and control. Spontaneous order based on cooperation and trade slowly changes into rules dictating what must be done.  Coercion and fear displace  freedom as the motivating  force. People increasingly do what they must rather than what they want.

        Interest groups, i.e. politically preferred constituents, created in good times don’t demand less when less is available. Their conditioning and sense of entitlement makes their demands seem reasonable, at least to themselves. The inability to meet these demands represents a threat to society itself.  Political strife and eventually civil unrest eventually occur.  Not honoring these demands may produce rioting and bloodshed.

        Society becomes increasingly divided in terms of  “makers” and “takers.”  As the takers grow in numbers, the makers shrink.  Soon the parasites overwhelm the productive. Society collapses at that point.

        Are The People Aware?

        The United States, the beacon of freedom and wealth, is deteriorating. and doing so at an increasing pace. To paraphrase Ernest Hemingway’s response to a bankruptcy question:

      How did your country die? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.

      Do people understand what is happening to them and their country? I suspect some have partial awareness.  Few appreciate  the full consequences of what is happening. People are not trained to think in these terms, nor should they have to be. For most,  it is a chore to get through each day. That is true of the dullards and the brilliant, for most of us end up at levels that tax our abilities.

      An innate trust in government is what makes this process so insidious. Few understand the predatory nature of the State. State schools have brainwashed most into believing the State is like a big brother who will take care of them if things become difficult. That belief is fundamental to the State’s continuing ability to plunder.

      People sense there is something wrong, even though they may be unable to identify what that something might be. Many believe that what is happening is temporary, sort of like an economic slowdown that reverts back to normal. For them, it is just a rough patch that is painful but will soon be over.

      The results from a recent Gallup poll are interesting and illustrate an  increasing level of dissatisfaction among the public:


      Numerous points could be made regarding this poll. All institutions have decreased in favorability. Such a result undoubtedly reflects the increasing dissatisfaction people have with the current situation. Apparently, most institutions are at record lows.

      Gallup was definitive regarding one in particular:

      The current 7% of Americans who place confidence in Congress is the lowest of the 17 institutions Gallup measured this year, and is the lowest Gallup has ever found for any of these institutions. The dearth of public confidence in their elected leaders on Capitol Hill is yet another sign of the challenges that could face incumbents in 2014′s midterm elections — as well as more broadly a challenge to the broad underpinnings of the nation’s representative democratic system.

      The  poll is not a direct measure of the health of the nation. However, it provides a composite of public satisfaction.  People know things are not right, even if they don’t know why.

      This dissatisfaction and distrust characterizes decline.

      Well, we got our grassroots resurgence… the tea party.  God even sent us a Reaganesque leader along with that movement, Sarah Palin.

      So did it come too late? Are the Progressives too strong and powerful? Are Americans completely apathetic and brainwashed into thinking the Nanny State is the way to go? 

      Or will we get-involved and rise up between (now) and the elections of 2014 and 2016 and humble ourselves and repent… to save America and the life and country we loved?

      It is not completely hopeless but close:

      It is not hopeless…

      Perhaps one of the biggest miracles in the Old Testament is found in the book of Jonah. I know what you’re thinking, but the miracle I am talking about doesn’t involve a whale.

      The book of Nahum comes some one hundred years after the prophecy of Jonah. This book tells the conclusion of the saga of Nineveh, which God spared from destruction for an entire century.

      God called Jonah to minister to Nineveh, which had served as the capital of the world for several centuries. Nineveh was the bitter enemy of Israel, so instead of obeying God, Jonah boarded a ship bound for Tarshish. However God had other plans and after a series of extraordinary events Jonah finally reached the great city.

      When Jonah arrived in Nineveh he didn’t present a polished, “seeker friendly” sermon. God had declared that they were 40 days from being destroyed. Jonah went through town proclaiming, “40 days and you get yours!” He was hoping they would get wiped out. In fact, his biggest fear was that God might spare them (in fact he went up on a hill and pouted when God did spare them).

      It is interesting that Jonah didn’t preach repentance. He simply announced their impending doom. It is astonishing to realize that within those 40 days, the king speculated that, just maybe, if they repented God might change His mind. They did, and God did. From the king on down, they put on sackcloth, the traditional ritual for repentance, and cried out to God (they even put sackcloth on the cattle). The repentance of Nineveh is astonishing when you think about it, perhaps one of the greatest miracles in the Old Testament.

      If we were to change and repent, as a nation… God would forgive us and might go back to protecting us, something we are definitely going to need with the mess we have created in the Middle East!

      And if we get-involved and at least vote, we might not keep ending up with the same bad crop in Washington.

      The tea party is in place, the leaders are out there, and God is waiting!  The only missing ingredient is us, the decision of the American people.

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      About Ask Marion

      I am a babyboomer and empty nester who savors every moment of my past and believes that it is the responsibility of each of us in my generation and Americans in general to make sure that America is as good or even a better place for future generations as it was for us. So far... we haven't done very well!! Favorite Quotes: "The first 50 years are to build and acquire; the second 50 are to leave your legacy"; "Do something that scares you every day!"; "The journey in between what you once were and who you are becoming is where the dance of life really takes place". At age 62 I find myself fighting inoperable uterine Cancer and thanks to the man upstairs and the prayers from so many people including many of my readers from AskMarion and JustOneMorePet... I'm beating it. After losing our business because of the economy and factors related to the re-election of President Obama in 2012 followed by 16-mos of job hunting, my architect-trained husband is working as a trucker and has only been home approximately 5-days a month since I was diagnosed, which has made everything more difficult and often lonely... plus funds are tight. Our family medical deductible is 12K per year for two of us; thank you ObamaCare. But thanks to donations from so many of you, we are making ends meet as I go through treatment while taking care of my father-in-law who is suffering from late stage Alzheimer's and my mother-in-law who suffers from RA and onset dementia as well as hearing loss, for which there are no caretaker funds, as I continue the fight here online to inform and help restore our amazing country. And finally I need to thank a core group of family, friends, and readers... all at a distance, who check in with me regularly. Plus, I must thank my furkids who have not left my side through this fight. You can see them at JustOneMorePet.
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