The Fema Camp Bill is Back! – HR 645


h/t to Black Listed News, The D.C. Clothesline and MJ:

It looks as if Representative Alcee Hastings a Democrat from Florida has decided to reintroduce his FEMA Camp bill. A few years ago I was the first person to write an article about this awful piece of legislation. Fortunately, I was successful in exposing it to a much larger group of people via the alternative media and the bill did not move forward in the legislative process. The latest iteration of this bill has been introduced as House Resolution 390 otherwise known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act. This bill would authorize not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers to be run by FEMA under the command of the Secretary of Homeland Security.

I was extremely critical of an earlier version of the bill which was proposed in the 111th Congress as HR 645. The bill used vague language to give the Secretary of Homeland Security carte blanche power to use these facilities for anything that the Secretary felt was appropriate. In other words if the Secretary of Homeland Security felt like using them as death camps than potentially that could have been considered a lawful use of the facilities according to the language in the bill. In this new version it looks like Representative Hastings got the message and decided to remove the vague language even though the Secretary of Homeland Security would still be in charge of the proposed facilities.

One of the minimum requirements of a national emergency center as defined by the bill is that it is capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster. It basically sounds like a concentration camp. Similar types of facilities were setup by Franklin Delano Roosevelt during World War II to house large numbers of Japanese Americans. In other words, there is historical precedence for the federal government forcibly relocating large numbers of people into government run concentration camps. There is an increasing amount of rhetoric from the federal government and corporate media that Constitutionalists, gun owners and other liberty minded people might be considered potential terrorists. Would it really be a stretch to think that these facilities could be used to house people that they consider to be enemies?

Considering how much the federal government has lied to the American people in the past, you would be absolutely insane to set foot in one of these proposed national emergency centers. For anybody who believes this is conspiracy theory talk, you have to understand that nobody in the federal government is going to openly propose that they are building facilities to detain large numbers of Americans during a martial law scenario. If they did they’d be widely criticized and the legislation would go nowhere. Instead they are going to make it sound as if these facilities are to be used for a beneficial purpose in order to conceal what they could ultimately be used for which is why they are called national emergency centers instead of FEMA camps or concentration camp facilities. It is the same concept used by the power structure in George Orwell’s book 1984 [Animal Farm and 1984]where the government agency called the Ministry of Love is in reality the Ministry of Torture.

Not only that, but why do we need the federal government specifically establishing national emergency centers on closed military installations? These are places that were designed to control who can enter and who can leave. Interestingly enough, one of the limitations included in the new version of the bill is that it does not authorize any federal officer or employee to force an individual to enter a national emergency center or prevent an individual from leaving a national emergency center. This is funny because a member of the U.S. military is technically not considered a federal officer or employee. So even though a federal officer or employee wouldn’t be able to force a person into one of these facilities or prevent them from leaving, it does not necessarily prevent a member of the military from performing these functions. Considering that members of the military would most likely be the ones responsible for the security of such a facility, it makes the limitation entirely meaningless.

To summarize, it looks as if the new bill has been changed to deflect the most damning criticisms posed towards earlier versions but it still is a dangerous piece of legislation. It is no secret that the federal government already has facilities that can hold large numbers of people if they have the need to do so. The Bush 43 regime approved the refurbishment of the old Japanese internment camps and in the mid-2000s KBR was literally given a multi-million dollar contract to build detention facilities.

In the 1980s, Lt. Col. Oliver North was questioned during the Iran Contra hearings about his role in the development of a continuity of government plan known as Readiness Exercise 1984 or Rex 84 for short. This plan involved the implementation of martial law which included the detainment of large numbers of American citizens who the federal government deemed to be threats to national security. Subsequently, the Miami Herald on July 5th 1987 did a story on this same continuity of government plan even going into how FEMA would run these internment facilities during a declaration of martial law.

ollienorthRex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be “national security threats”, in the event that the President declares a “State of National Emergency”. The plan states events causing such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3][4][5] To combat what the government perceived as “subversive activities”, the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.[6]

Rex 84 was written by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, who was both National Security Council White House Aide, and NSC liaison to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and John Brinkerhoff, the deputy director of “national preparedness” programs for the FEMA. They patterned the plan on a 1970 report written by FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida, at the Army War College, which proposed the detention of up to 21 million “American Negroes”, if there were a black militant uprising in the United States.[1][7]Existence of a master military contingency plan (of which REX-84 was a part), “Garden Plot” and a similar earlier exercise, “Lantern Spike”, were originally revealed by journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in an article in CounterSpy.[8]  You can see the full Wikipedia entry here.

bushcheneyThe Cheney/Bush administration had a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency.

The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state.

The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA.

Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987

” These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.”

And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.

This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~ humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job description under the Department of Homeland Security. Source:

In addition to what we just covered with KBR and the refurbishment of the old Japanese internment camps, there have been many people who have identified strange government facilities around the United States that appeared to be setup for the purpose of holding large numbers of people: Preparing for What is Coming.. As Government is Activating "FEMA Camps" Across U.S As a result, this bill if passed into law would simply expand upon pre-existing facilities and create a more robust FEMA camp infrastructure. Keep in mind that the bill authorizes a minimum of 6 national emergency centers but that’s just the minimum. Potentially this bill could authorize the establishment of many national emergency centers or FEMA camps and that is not acceptable.

And many feel and have warned that Obama will declare martial law during his second term: OBAMA SIGNS 4-EO’S IN ONE DAY – WHISTLEBLOWER: OBAMA WILL DECLARE MARTIAL LAW

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  4. scary….lot’s of innocent civilians rely to the “care” of elected officials and legislators….and to think there are scenarios like this being brewed inside locked rooms… are our children this safe?

  5. Ted says:

    In reviewing various aspects of NDAA as well as the Army Relocation Manual, dissent is considered to be a threat to national security and these camps are intended to house dissenters. The military along with the Fed (FBI, DHS, CIA) are stepping up their surveillance and intimidation of activists and others who question the actions and philosophies of our leaders and government… I now have friends in my own circle that have had recent visits from FBI agents advising them that their on line activities are being monitored…

  6. Do you ever just wake up in the morning and wonder how the hell we got where we are now? I do. Hope the LORD comes back soon. Getting ugly.

  7. WAP-Tek says:

    HR 645 is not part of the law, as it never made out of “committee” in 2009 but Jan 23, 2013 it was re listed as H.R. 390 & again Referred to Committee to die as “National Emergency Centers Establishment Act “

  8. The reality of this is scary. Its so sad that our world has slipped so far away from what our forefathers believed and built America to be and to see us as Americans slipping into downhill spiral without even realizing it is scary… even sadder that we have become us to it that we are blind to it all…or we have a non shulant attitude about what’s going on in our nation .we are basically setting ourselves up for these things to happen, if our own government doesn’t read the laws there are passing or demand to know what there signing we are all in serious trouble. We as a nation are falling and only God can help us now.

  9. I am not well versed in political issues…but ask this. The people who built these camps, did they know what they were building and why. And if they did, why would you, with a clear concoiunse go forward and build this anyway? A job is not always a job if your doing it for the wrong reason. Some one like Jessie Ventura needs to look into this too. God help us all!

  10. linda davis says:

    This scares me to death. I have always thanked God that we live in America, land of the free (questionable) wwwhere we can worship as we please and not be afraid to drink our water. Everyone please watch and pray. Get some emergency stuff ready. Flashlights and fresh batteries and plenty of bottled water. Any can food that has a zip top. Please store away a couple months of your medicines. Furnish a first aid kit. Dear God have mercy on is.

  11. Michael says:

    It is meant to scare you; this is garbage journalism at its best. Take a look at the article, everything the author writes about is vague and shrouded in theory. The author claims the bill uses vague language; however there are strict definitions in place for what constitutes a National Emergency, or a Natural Disaster, which as far as I can tell is the true purpose of the bill. After the disaster of Hurricane Katrina, and the Governments lack of Response, other than telling everyone to leave, a warning which some blatantly ignored; I am sure the US Government wants to be prepared to house those who have lost everything from another Natural Disaster to avoid the type of fall out we had with Katrina. Just look at the sentences in the article.
    “The bill used vague language to give the Secretary of Homeland Security carte blanche power to use these facilities for anything that the Secretary felt was appropriate. In other words if the Secretary of Homeland Security felt like using them as death camps than potentially that could have been considered a lawful use of the facilities according to the language in the bill”.
    Seriously, the Author of this article is irresponsible. The Bill clearly states where you can find the definitions to the terms that outlined for when it is necessary to use one of these facilities. If you Google the Sections mentioned you will find the terms definitions. So, yea we could go on all day about what ifs and potential uses, but there are no facts to back up the Author’s claims as far as I can see. Here are the definitions according to the 42 U.S.C. 5122
    And here is the link with the bills text
    Also: check out this list of Fallacies that can be found in Literature like this article
    Read it for yourself and see if you really think that these FEMA centers would be used for “Death Camps” as the author so mildly puts it. In my own opinion it looks as though the government was trying to set up areas for Natural Disaster Relief for those who did not have any family or friends to help them out.

    (1) Emergency.— “Emergency” means any occasion or instance for which, in the determination of the President, Federal assistance is needed to supplement State and local efforts and capabilities to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in any part of the United States.
    (2) Major disaster.— “Major disaster” means any natural catastrophe (including any hurricane, tornado, storm, high water, winddriven water, tidal wave, tsunami, earthquake, volcanic eruption, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, or drought), or, regardless of cause, any fire, flood, or explosion, in any part of the United States, which in the determination of the President causes damage of sufficient severity and magnitude to warrant major disaster assistance under this chapter to supplement the efforts and available resources of States, local governments, and disaster relief organizations in alleviating the damage, loss, hardship, or suffering caused thereby.
    • (3) “United States” means the fifty States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.
    • (4) “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.
    • (5) “Governor” means the chief executive of any State.

    • Ask Marion says:

      Of course this was written to scare you… us, and we should be scared. After watching the ObamaCare debacle and how it went down and more recently the ObamaTrade process, none of us should have faith in our governnment! And there are far too many theories that have proved out to be true.

      A bill using vague language to give the Secretary of Homeland Security (or anyone) carte blanche power to use these facilities for anything (or to do anything else) that the Secretary felt was appropriate, is beyond scary to anyone who is paying attention! And the potential of giving the Secretary of Homeland Security the abiity to use these faciities as death camps and that being considered a lawful use of the thereof according to the language in the bill, should scare the Hell out of anyone!

      Just ask any survivors or the Japanese-American internment camps or survivors or the Nazi death camps and they will tell you how quickly the worm turns.

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