The Council Has Spoken!! This Week’s Watchers Council Results – Sep 21 2012

JoshuaPundit:

Alea iacta est… The Council Has Spoken!, the votes have been cast, and the results are in for this week’s Watcher’s Council match up. And it was a pretty close race in both categories!

President Barack Obama’s Middle East Foreign policy ( if it can even be called that) is falling apart at the seams, and yet the usual suspects blame it on a silly video and what none other than our president called the violence, including the murder of four Americans ‘natural protests’. And of course, they make sure to add that the perpetrators are a ‘minority’ who aren’t practicing real Islam, the Religion of Peace.

This week’s winner by a nose, Joshuapundit’s, Islam and Not Islam: Fantasy Vs. Reality In The West takes a look at this topic, one I’ve written about before. Here’s a slice:

Where exactly do you draw the line between fantasy and reality? Or more importantly, where does a society as a whole draw it?

Increasingly, that line in our society is being drawn when it comes to how people perceive Islam.

The recent rise of Islamists and the outbreak of violent attacks on U.S. embassies in the Muslim World has brought this into focus in almost a surreal way, as various pundits and talking heads tap dance like newly reborn Fred Astaire in a minefield trying to avoid stepping on the real issue -is this sort of violent behavior due to Islam or is it an aberration due to culture? And what can we do about it?

The way many of them attempt to deal with this without being fired from their jobs or fear of being targeted for violence themselves is by talking about a minority of ‘extremists’ who are practicing an interpretation of Islam that of course, the majority of Muslims do not follow.

Are they right?



Dutch politician Geert Wilders is someone who has forcefully addressed that question, and he’s paid a heavy personal price for it. So his opinion is of some interestSee: TheDC Interview: ‘Marked for Death’ Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders [VIDEO]

The above interview with The Daily Caller’s Jamie Weinstein to promote his book, ‘Marked for Death: Islam’s War Against the West and Meserves as a useful signpost on where that line exist, where the delusions about Islam collide with adamant reality.

Wilder, being European, has seen first hand how multiculturalism combined with massive Muslim immigration and supine politicians willing to appease and accommodate the situation has changed a continent, literally making what was a free society far less free and much more violent and fearful.As Geert Wilders says during the interview, Europe was ten years ahead of America in that regard and he wrote the book, in part ‘as a warning to my American friends.’

Wilder’s opening point is to explain why Islam “should not be compared so much with other religions like Christianity or Judaism” but rather “to other totalitarian ideologies like Communism and Fascism. If we acknowledge that fact then you don’t have to treat it like a religion and a lot of problems can be solved far more easily..”

At which point, Weinstein interrupts and after a brief mention of Israel, brings the conversation to the far more ‘human interest’ level of Muslims as people…you know, all those ordinary, law abiding peaceful Muslims who aren’t harming anyone.

Wilder’s response is interesting. He says (as he always has all along) that he has nothing against anyone simply because they are Muslim, and that the majority of Muslims in our society are neither violent nor criminals. But he goes on to make an important distinction – that while there are moderate people that call themselves Muslims, there’s no such thing as moderate Islam. “Don’t let anybody fool you who says Islam can be moderated,” Wilders says. “There are not two Islams; there is only the Islam of the Koran, the Islam of the life of Mohammed, and the Islam of sharia law.”

Is Wilders correct?

In our non-Council category, the winner was The Diplomad 2.0 with We Are Not at War…Just Under Attack submitted by The Glittering Eye. It’s a superb examination of exactly what’s happening in the Middle East and how it was a natural result of President Barack Obama’s policies. Do read it.

OK, OK, here are this week’s full results:

Council Winners
Non-Council Winners
Honorable Mentions

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