Rand Paul’s victory over the NDAA Indefinite Detention clause – Update: We Have Been Hood Winked!

UPDATE:  WE have been hood winded! Sad smile I hate to be the one to break it to you, because I was celebrating this morning too –  and it sucked when I read it and dug deeper, but here it is.

The heart of the Feinstein amendment:

"An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, UNLESS AN ACT OF CONGRESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZES SUCH DETENTION."

Well, that Act of Congress is the 2012 NDAA, which renders the rest of the Feinstein amendment meaningless.

The Feinstein amendment to the 2013 NDAA does NOT protect you from indefinite detention without charge or trial. In fact, it explicitly permits such detention so long as the detention is approved by an Act of Congress . . . such as the 2012 NDAA.”

Here is a good source for the amendments and what they meant and didn’t mean:

https://pandaunite.org/ndaa-2013-ndaa-amendmentschanges-are-smoke-and-mirrors/

here are a couple of other links:
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-americans-indefinite-detention2012-11#ixzz2DfJ1q5Zx

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/dont-be-fooled-new-ndaa-detention-amendment

The amendment merely shifts the responsibility to our Congress and makes it much easier for them to do.  

After reading the text of the amendment – it is very clear.  We CAN still be detained, indefinitely.  Shifting the responsibility to Congress to be the one that puts forth the act that usurps the Constitution is STILL usurping the Constitution.  I believe the Patriot “ACT” and the NDAA will BOTH be used to detain us at will….as the new amendment makes it clear they can now.  The other thing, which most seem to be missing, is the fact that neither of these amendments address the posse comitatus act and the NDAA nullification of it.  These amendments are stating clearly that OUR military can be used in police action against US – which is PROHIBITED by the posse comitatus act.  NO one cared to address that little issue.

Someone (ahem: Rand Paul) has some ‘splainin to do.

Sad…but true.

Sorry, it was a bitter pill to swallow this morning, but we have been boondoggled again.
Michelle

 

While many Americans were sleeping, Congress has been working on the NDAA Bill which said "that American Citizens can be indefinitely detained for whatever reason with no proof, no lawyer, no due process, no representation, no reason, etc."? 

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The Washington Times:

DALLAS, November 30, 2012 — Senator Rand Paul, speaking before the Senate on Wednesday says: “If you don’t have a right to trial by jury, you do not have due process. You do not have a Constitution. What are you fighting against and for if you throw the Constitution out? When zealots of the government arrest suspects or radicals without warrants, hold them without trial, deny them access to counsel or admission of bail, we have shorn the Bill of Rights of its sanctity.”

Earlier this month we learned that Sen. Paul was planning to force a vote on an amendment to protect the rights of American citizens detained under the controversial 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

The NDAA is a federal law that is passed every year, specifying the budget and expenditures of the US Department of Defense, although each year’s act also includes other provisions. The explosive 2011-2012 NDAA bill included a wildly unpopular clause in Section 1021 which provided for the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens judged to be involved in terrorism or “belligerent acts” against the US.  Read the full article HERE

Video:  Sen. Rand Paul Voices Support for Feinstein-Lee NDAA Amendment – 11/28/12

RAND-PAC

Dear Patriots

The right to a trial by jury is one of the very foundations of our Republic.

Thanks to the petitions and phone calls from concerned Americans like you, the Amendment stripping the indefinite detention language out of the NDAA just passed the U.S. Senate by a vote of 67-29.

But this fight isn’t over yet.

Since the Senate amended the NDAA, it now has to go back to the House for approval.

So you and I must remain prepared to pick up this fight in the Senate in the near future.

Once again, thank you for all you do. I’ll be sure and keep you updated on our fight to protect the 6th Amendment rights of all Americans.
In Liberty,

Senator Rand Paul

P.S. Thanks to your efforts, the Amendment stripping the indefinite detention language out of the NDAA just passed the U.S. Senate.
But since the bill has to go back to the House for approval, this fight isn’t over yet.

If you could chip in $10 or $20 to help RAND PAC lead the fight to defend our 6th Amendment freedoms, I’d greatly appreciate it.

Paid for by RAND PAC and not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. Contributions to RAND PAC are not tax-deductible.  www.RANDPAC.com

Have you read? THEY FIRED THE FIRST SHOT 2012  by a Friend of Medjugorje

h/t to Victoria Baer  -  When the defense of liberty becomes a crime, tyranny is already in force. At that point, failure to defend liberty makes slavery a certainty.

Victoria:  OMG PATRIOTS WOOO HOOO!  HOORAH!!!    HOORAY!   THIS IS AMAZING!    I can not tell you how many emails I get back telling me that emailing and calling won’t work…stop wasting your time!

This is EXACTLY what the TREASONOUS TRAITORS in DC want us to think!   THIS IS A VICTORY!!!  I WILL BE THANKING THE GOOD LORD FOR HELPING US ON THIS ONE!  NOW THIS AMENDMENT  MUST GO TO THE HOUSE AND WE MUST MAKE THE PHONE CALLS!  DO YOU HAVE THE HOUSE AND SENATE MAIN LINES IN YOUR CELL PHONES?   PUT them in right now… House 202 225 3121   Senate is 202 224 3121….

don’t know who your reps are … ? Put this in your phone to help educate others…go to www.congress.org   put in your zip and they all come up…state and federal reps!  WE MUST RE-ACTIVATE AND WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD AND TEACH OTHERS!!! 

THIS IS SO AMAZING!  GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND THANK THE LORD NOW!! PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD!!  THIS IS THE SENATE …that did this!  We MUST MAKE THEM HEAR US COMING… LIKE

A FREAKING FREIGHT TRAIN!!!   Save the money …marching, gathering, hotels, driving, etc … be an EMAIL WARRIOR…and call, email and fax and do IT MORE THAN ONCE when we have an alert!!!

Hell, I call them all…have all the treasonous major ones In my phone…I google a zip from their area and keep it in my phone and then I call…it’s handy to give the zip….I drive down the road and say…what treasonous traitor in DC do I need to call today and give them My opinion!  Rand Paul told me personally don’t waste time with letters (because they have to be screened) blow up phones and emails!!!   Be a PHONE AND EMAIL WARRIOR!  Teach others!!!

Keep in mind nothing and no one has addressed the issue of Obama being able to use his executive orders without the checks and balances of the House and Senate to prevent total takeover, but this is still a good sign since I really didn’t know what he Senate would do.

“He who chooses security over freedom seldom gets (nor deserves) either.”  … Benjamin Freedom

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I am a babyboomer and empty nester who savors every moment of my past and believes that it is the responsibility of each of us in my generation and Americans in general to make sure that America is as good or even a better place for future generations as it was for us. So far... we haven't done very well!! Favorite Quotes: "The first 50 years are to build and acquire; the second 50 are to leave your legacy"; "Do something that scares you every day!"; "The journey in between what you once were and who you are becoming is where the dance of life really takes place".
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2 Responses to Rand Paul’s victory over the NDAA Indefinite Detention clause – Update: We Have Been Hood Winked!

  1. I want to to thank you for this good read!! I certainly loved every little bit
    of it. I have you bookmarked to look at new things you post…

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